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I’m sharing the deck in AnkiWeb, it results in an error above. It doesn’t show me any other details.
I was searching before posting and seen a few posts with the same complaint, which have been resolved, so I assumed that’s enough. I don’t know what else I can provide. Deck number? It’s 1555045123103 (synced to AnkiWeb, but not public).
If there is some specific info which can help you, please name it.
You probably have multiple card templates with the same content. If you update to a more recent Anki version and attempt to export the decks locally, it should explain the issue in more detail.
@dae Thanks! Can you clarify what platform do you refer to? I just exported these very decks in Android and it went fine. I have the most recent version. I’ll try desktop.
As for “multiple templates with the same content”, I’m not sure I understand the context. I do have card types showing the same content a bit differently, but they are used in a different decks. Is that what you are referring to?
Ok, I do see an error in Desktop version, but is still doesn’t make sense to me. Probably I do not grasp some new concept? It worth to note, that previously it didn’t cause any issues, I even shared these decks on AnkiWeb a couple of years ago. Anyway, I don’t understand why is it an issue at all.
So: I have n notes and two card types to show these notes with different level of details. I have two decks, each one using its own card type, so each deck suppose to present the same n notes, but a bit differently. What’s wrong with having different decks representing same notes? And why does it cause an error when exporting just one of those decks?
You can’t partially export a note - if it creates two cards, users will end up with two cards that differ only by the answer side, which is likely to cause confusion. You’ll need to decide whether or not you want to include that extra field on the template, and then the users can either add or remove it from the template later if they wish.
I was able to share, thanks for the help!
Still, I don’t understand what’s an issue, so would appreciate an explanation or hint what to read to make my understanding better.
What I had was two card types with the same face and different level of details on the back. Identical face was an issue, so after I added a bogus “differences” (symmetric " "), it went well. Why I had to do it still eludes my understanding.
Hmm. Seems overly restricting to me, but ok, at least I see the logic there. Thanks!
So, if you don’t mind, what would be the better approach in my case?
What I want to achieve is to provide a bit more gradual learning curve without the need (for end users) to edit templates.
So I did two decks, as I described above, both showing the same face (Question) and one showing only the essentials on the back (Answer), while the other showing all the details available.
Does adding the hint to the face of what is expected as an answer serve the point? Is there better approach?
Worth to add - it doesn’t make sense to mix the two since the only purpose of having both is to use them one after the other. If someone wants to dive deep, only the “full” version is needed.
You don’t need to, as Anki’s memorization method will work even if it was not gradual.
It might be counterintuitive, but adding hints to a card just for the sake of it is worse than no hints at all. This is because such hints are usually not needed, and add information on the card. Remember, the less information there is in a single card, and the more efficient is the wording, the best. See this.
I don’t have hints. It seems to me you missing the point here. My goal is exactly to keep it simple, but without removing non-essential info entirely.
It’s like learning the words (many of them) with multiple meanings, and I can refer to first hand experience. First you learn the most common meaning. Then, as soon as you know it by heart, you ready to see all the meanings (or at least more of them) and the most common one doesn’t draw attention anymore, so the attention turns to additional information.
At least, I don’t see how to do it simpler without causing more confusion.
I have added the quote the the question I was answering, since it was not an answer to your main point indeed.
I’m not sure I get what you are trying to do anyways, but there is a pattern that should be avoided IMO, and which is:
This is probably not going to work as you intended. As I have note fully understood, I can only list potential pitfalls may cripple you:
- it’s hard to ensure that the “essential” card is going to be seen before the “non-essential” one, let alone it being seen after the “essential” one was learnt.
- you are still overloading one card (the non-essential one).
- you are creating interference between two cards which will have the same question (think of it this way: in the long run, when the user is going to review an “essential” card, he might not remember whether part of the answer he is thinking of is considered a detail or not, that is, he might confuse the two cards).
- you are asking someone to learn a set of details in a single card, which is bad.
The link I gave you is more general than hints. An example take from there:
Q: What are the characteristics of the Dead Sea?
A: Salt lake located on the border between Israel and Jordan. Its shoreline is the lowest point on the Earth's surface, averaging 396 m below sea level. It is 74 km long. It is seven times as salty (30% by volume) as the ocean. Its density keeps swimmers afloat. Only simple organisms can live in its saline waters.
should become, instead,
Q: Where is the Dead Sea located?
A: on the border between Israel and Jordan
Q: What is the lowest point on the Earth's surface?
A: The Dead Sea shoreline
Q: What is the average level on which the Dead Sea is located?
A: 400 meters (below sea level)
Q: How long is the Dead Sea?
A: 70 km
Q: How much saltier is the Dead Sea than the oceans?
A: 7 times
Q: What is the volume content of salt in the Dead Sea?
A: 30%
Q: Why can the Dead Sea keep swimmers afloat?
A: due to high salt content
Q: Why is the Dead Sea called Dead?
A: because only simple organisms can live in it
Q: Why only simple organisms can live in the Dead Sea?
A: because of high salt content
not
Q: What is the Dead Sea?
A: A israelo-jordan salt lake.
Q: What is the Dead Sea (with more details)?
A: Salt lake located on the border between Israel and Jordan. Its shoreline is the lowest point on the Earth's surface, averaging 396 m below sea level. It is 74 km long. It is seven times as salty (30% by volume) as the ocean. Its density keeps swimmers afloat. Only simple organisms can live in its saline waters.
Sorry, I missed it was reference to my own guess about hints.
Back to the point. How would you apply this reference example to the “word with multiple meanings” case I described above?
Word with multiple meanings are a real difficulty in Anki due to interference (it’s easy to confuse a meaning with an other). In general, if you have a single question which could have multiple answers, it’s going to be hard to learnt it with Anki. But, no despair!
If you only have “few” meanings, you can try learn them all at once, meaning you have a single card “Word → All meanings”. I’ll explain later what it means “few”.
If you have more, I would recommend creating several notes, each one with a single card, one for each meaning, and that you provide an example sentence.
For instance, you could have a card “How do you say /word/, as in /example sentence/? → One meaning”. For a concrete example on how to do that, see this deck.
Now, what it means “few” synonyms? The problem is that the answer depends on the person who is studying. Personally, I never go above three synonyms this way. But there is also the fact that some of these cards will be hard to learn just for a handful of people, and some other will be hard for other people. If you only plan to use it personally, I would suggest to find out what is the maximum number of synonyms you can learn efficiently in a single card. Then, if you see you struggle with a particular card (you can use leeches to detect these), transform it into multiple notes with single meaning each. If you are planning to share your deck with others, I think it’s better to go only for single meaning cards, otherwise people you share your deck with will probably need to modify it.
Well, yeah, full descriptions in my cards could be broken out into atomic questions, but I’m still not sure it is going to be easier to learn. To me, personally, it doesn’t seem so, since it’s easier to keep the whole set of characteristics in a single “compartment”. Doesn’t mean it is true for everyone or true at all, I haven’t done proper research on it. Anyway, in this case it would mean enormous amount of work. Given unknown interest, I’ll stick with what I have for now.
Good point with examples, anyway.
Would be interesting to actually see if anyone done that kind of research, because to me it seems non-atomic characteristics cause more associations to form, not only to a major, identifying characteristic (like name), but between the ones to be learnt as well.
Yes, dividing the information into atomic characteristics does improve learning when using Anki, because Anki is built on top of an older SuperMemo algorithm, which is itself based on psychological research on long-term strategy for memorizing, and thus the list of advices I sent you that explicitly says you have to split up information is really how this family of algorithms are supposed to be used in practice.
You can always do otherwise, but the interest is far from being unknown.