Keep in mind that TR already overflows horizontally and needs scroll bars in some languages just because they have slightly longer column labels.
We have surprisingly limited space to work with because of mobile devices and splitting Stats into multiple columns.
Loading more information into the TR chart serves no purpose. And I don’t think Answer Buttons would be made better by turning it from its own graph to a pop-up sub-chart. These should stay as a separate graph and chart.
I hope other people like @sorata, @rossgb, @Anon_0000, etc. will see it too. I wouldn’t be making this topic if there wasn’t a reason for it. Users do get confused regarding where to look.
Maybe we could add a little description? I copyied the following from Statistics - Anki Manual and inserted it into the subtitle part. This wouldn’t solve redundancy between the two graphs, but could make it more obvious which graph is the right graph to check retention (provided the user reads the paragraph):
This change is pretty easy to do and doesn’t modify the answer button graph in any way – maybe that would be a good middle ground?
Maybe I’m missing the part where the user was confused between whether to look at Answer Buttons or True Retention? What I see is someone checking if they can look at the Answer Buttons graph for retention results – which they still can. Just because the True Retention chart exists, and calculates retention differently, doesn’t make Answer Buttons an incorrect answer, so I don’t see the problem here.
You didn’t provide any context or source for your screenshot, so I guess we’ll never know. 
Good idea. I think we should also make the True Retention table appear before Answer Buttons, just to make it more discoverable.
Do you have any specific place in mind? Or would the following do?
Changing the order of the graphs is easy to do – I can open a PR shortly.
(I’ll probably open a separate one for changing the subtitle)
That’s not what it looks like on my PC (Anki 25.02, 038d85b1). Graphs don’t form rows, and there is “Added” after “Answer Buttons” but before “True Retention”.
They will if your monitor is big enough (or if you scroll out).
Yes, the screenshot above is from me changing it. I was asking if this would be good in your opinion, so that I can open a PR.
They will if your monitor is big enough (or if you scroll out).
Interesting, I didn’t know.
Yeah, your order looks good.
I opened the PR here:
I didn’t change the string yet, as I’m not sure how to add line breaks to them.
Edit:
I opened another PR to add the description, too:
Final results, if both PRs would be merged:
Just a thought – if you consider Hourly Breakdown, True Retention, and Answer Buttons to be a set of “success or failure” charts/graphs – wouldn’t it make sense for TR to come first, as the overall chart? Then it could be followed by HB and AB (in either order) as the drill-down, nitty gritty graphs.
[I don’t know if anyone cares about Added, but it’s always been fine at the end, so I say leave it at the end, after those 3.]
I have no objection to this. I can change it in my PR if desired.
No objections from me. TR table being higher = easier to discover it
Done, I moved it up.
I made a survey: https://forms.gle/dwkaJEsNTrvJF7q77
I will post it on r/Anki and on Discord tomorrow, for now I’m posting it here just to gather feedback and make sure I’m asking the right questions
EDIT: to anyone reading this and clicking the link - I will delete responses before “properly” posting it, so don’t bother responding right now now
When you want to find out your retention, where do you look?
Maybe you could make this easier by using something else than “retention” like “When you want to find out how much you remember, where do you look?”. This should reduce
Have you ever been confused about what you should look at when checking your retention - the “True Retention” table or the “Answer Buttons” chart?
Same here. I’d replace the “checking your retention” part with something like I mentioned above.
Do you think “Answer Buttons” and “True Retention” should be combined into a single table/chart?
Or maybe “Answer Buttons” should be removed?
Not sure how useful the data of this question is going to be. But it probably doesn’t hurt to ask it anyways. The question is biased though, which is a problem according to the false memory paradigm.
It wouldn’t be biased if it was something like this:
Do you think adding this text is a good change?
Good to ask, but there’s a problem. Adding this text → what text exactly? If you had a “before → after” picture it would make things more obvious – and very likely increase the quality of the data from that question.
Good to ask, but there’s a problem. Adding this text → what text exactly? If you had a “before → after” picture it would make things more obvious – and very likely increase the quality of the data from that question.
Please provide two images then. As for other points, I’ll try changing the wording. I don’t see the problem with question 3, but I changed it slightly anyway.
EDIT: done, refresh the survey page
Here’s the “before” img:
Would be maybe nice to have them as one picture, side by side, with an error pointing to the “after” picture saying something like “→ becomes”.
My #3 point still applies. I can paraphrase it if you wish.
Do you know how to add those pictures together? I don’t really know but could probably hack something together.
