Deletion request

Dear Administrators,

I would like to kindly request the deletion of one of my posts in the forum.

Below are the details of the post in question:

  • Post Title: New German Anki Deck (500 Cards, A1-A2 Level) – Free, Clean, and Built with Love

  • Link to Post: URL of the post

  • Reason for Deletion: The deck has been updated and re-released and the information is no longer accurate. The new post can be found here.

Please do let me know if you require any additional information to process this request.

Thank you in advance for your time and support,
Kind regards,
drahcir

So you just reduced the demo version from 500 to 200 cards? Also, nice AI-generated-looking profile picture in your second account. I hope the deck wasn’t made with AI too…

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:rofl:

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Very funny how that’s not mentioned neither in OP’s post nor on AnkiWeb:

Instead you see “Everything is manually curated and checked for correctness and consistency”.

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I don’t get why this person is dunked on for using AI-gen sound files ?? Most decks use some form of ML to generate the audio files. I guess they should have mentioned it but they didn’t lie and say “native voice” either.

“manually curated” part is very gray-zone-y.

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Ai generated audio isn’t always good. Sometimes there are big mistakes but only in some words / sentence combinations. I personally agree with @ZornHadNoChoice that this should have been disclosed from the get-go. Though one could argue that that’s the risk you have to take if you study other peoples decks.

As a german, based on the 2 examples on OPs website and the 3 examples on ankiweb, the pronunciation and rythm seems to be quite good. Basically like using a good TTS with more natural sounding voice. So if OPs claim

Everything is manually curated and checked for correctness and consistency.

is true (and only the audio has been generated and the rest is based on reputable sources), then at least we can assume the quality is fine.

It gives off the vibes of an ad to their paid deck, which I assume was AI generated (not just the audio). I don’t see how it was “Built with Love”, like the original post claimed.

It doesn’t help that they tried to hide the AI aspect of it (even if it’s just the audio), plus wanting to delete the original post “because it’s no longer accurate”.

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If you’re German, doesn’t this voiceover seem very robotic?

There’s https://ttsmaker.com/, they have really cool sound.
But listening to it…well, that’s an acquired taste.
And shame on the Germans for “The Best German Anki Deck” :slight_smile:

I only know those TTS voices from old smartphones (I think the last version where I used TTS was Android 2.3.6, which was apparently released in 2010) and the one from espeak; compared to those, the voices from OPs deck are really really good. But if you are looking for something that sounds exactly like human voice (and consider everything else sounding robotic), then of course the voices from OPs deck are subpar.

Their voices seem very similar in quality compared to the voices in OPs deck. Though I’d slightly prefer the voices from OPs deck. Still much better than anything I know from back in the days.

I personally prefer to get audio from native speakers anyways. There are several sites that allow you to listen to native audio which is always better than TTS or AI. And some of those sites allow you to download the audio so that you can import it to anki. That’s what I do.

Hi guys, thank you for your comments. Bloody hell!

Firstly, I completely understand the initial adverse reaction to anything containing AI – I also tend to disregard most content the moment I sniff AI, and assume it’s just low-quality slop created in an afternoon with the goal of bringing in income.

In light of the discussion which has opened up here, I would like to shed some light on my background, the process of creating the deck, and the rationale for the choices I made along the way, and hopefully convince you that this does not belong in the slop bin.

What initially made me want to create this deck was a general disappointment in the quality and availability of quality German frequency decks. Every one I tried was riddled with mistakes. I say this as a C2 speaker of German with a degree in linguistics, 15 years’ experience learning German and 10 years’ experience as a DE–EN translator. I would consider myself, for all intents and purposes, a native speaker.

I decided I wanted to create a quality deck to plug this gap, and the result is the 1,500 word deck shared here, which took me 6 months and several hundred hours to finish.

I first started by cross-referencing around 15 different frequency lists and then painstakingly adding and subtracting words based on contemporary usage and daily utility. This selection process alone took over 100 hours. I then worked with native speakers to write example sentences for each of the 1,500 words.

Initially, I wanted to get a native speaker to record the sentences in a recording studio. Although I do usually get mistaken for a native speaker, I wanted someone with a standard accent who had acquired the language from early childhood. All of the quotes for a professional voiceover artist were around $1,000, which I was unable to justify as my first side project deck. (It’s perhaps worth mentioning that my second deck, which is slightly more manageable in its scope, does contain native human audio). If I do manage to cover the costs and prove there is demand, then professionally-recorded audio will be absolutely non-negotiable going forward.

I also considered buying audio equipment and setting up my own home studio, but I couldn’t find anybody in my social circle with an appropriate voice who was able or willing to deliver the necessary audio.

After going back and forth and considering my options, I settled on an ElevenLabs voice clone based on a real-life, professional voiceover artist. This is not comparable to the old TTS we were used to from 90% of Anki decks just a few years ago. I showed it to a number of native speakers and none of them could tell that the voice was not “real” and were all impressed by the quality. The almost undetectable difference between this and true native audio is not of any significance in the context of a beginner learning basic vocabulary. If I had not disclosed this, I very much doubt anybody would have questioned it.

I don’t see a problem with using AI sparingly when justified, providing an expert is in control of the final product, which I was. As of 2026, I think that resisting targeted and justified use of AI is going to be a fairly futile exercise going forward.

In terms of the 200 version, I genuinely do believe this is a quality resource for beginners in its own right. I don’t see anything wrong with offering it for free as a way to attract customers to a premium version. This is a side passion project for me, and it barely covers the power costs of using my computer, let alone the time I spent on it, nor even the ElevenLabs tokens I used. I’m certainly not “raking it in at the expense of learners”, as is the implication here.

Anyway, I’m an honest creator with a passion for languages, and I have nothing to hide. If anyone has read this far and wants free access to the full version so they can see that it’s actually a quality product which they would be happy to use themselves, let me know.

If this is against the policy and spirit of this forum, then feel free to delete the deck and continue with your day.

In the spirit of this thread, I’ve written this completely “manually”, though I’m probably going to strongly regret not giving it a onceover with ChatGPT once the pedantic comments start rolling in.

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Ich will, ich will, ich will.

I’m lying, of course. Why would I need that?
Just looking at those 200 is enough for me.
So I’m writing to you:
كىنو

You see it and don’t hear it, and they’re already saying you won’t be able to read it.
It’s the same with your cards:

بۈگۈن كەچتە كىنوغا بارايلى.

It’s good to see and hear at once. Just look at what’s on https://youglish.com/pronounce/Kino/german — you see different things, you hear them, you can read them. What makes a card better for people to buy it rather than visit a similar resource or engage with AI?

In any case, if you like it, then do it. If people buy it, then you can keep doing it, and all these questions about whether it’s AI or not don’t matter.
You have done 200, but some people do nothing and do not want to share even part of their work.
So thank you very much for that too!