The polls seem to be unanimous on FSRS being better than SM2. The concern I have is why it’s not set as the default option if it’s so good?
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It’s almost unanimous but some people are out there who still don’t like FSRS. I think Matt previously said SM2 is better without ease and it works better that way and that’s what he uses. Some people in Refold think what you use doesn’t matter. There’s someone called DJ Ddawg/Robert Dylanson who thinks FSRS is worse than SM2.
That’s just the Japanese learning community. I continuously see a lot of people who don’t use FSRS. They’re fine with SM2.
I personally have suggested that dae makes FSRS the default scheduler eventually but we don’t know what will happen. (also is that a suggestion or you are asking a question?)
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Nah, just curious, since I was researching and everyone seems to like FSRS, but I’m still sticking to the original SM2 because it seems pretty complicated and I want to assure that my cards are safe before I use it.
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Scheduler will only schedule your cards. SM2 scheduling isn’t particularly good anyways, so why fear about being “safe”? I personally don’t believe everyone should use FSRS. If you like ~30% less workload then FSRS is pretty good. But for me it has been a huge boon to my Kanji writing deck as I fail a lot of cards there. SM2’s new interval after lapse will always be bad and FSRS is just better at giving me good intervals after a lapse occurs.
It will likely become the default in the future, but for that automatic optimization is 100% required. With automatic optimization, users will never have to worry about tweaking any settings (other than desired retention) or clicking any buttons. They would be able to just let the algorithm do ithe job in the background.
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Google doesn’t help me, does this person write articles anywhere?
It’s still pretty new. Transition to a new default, done responsibly, shouldn’t happen overnight.
For a point of comparison – the v3 scheduler was introduced in mid-2021. It didn’t become the default until support for the v2 scheduler ended in late-2023, over 2 years later.
I’m not saying FSRS is on that same trajectory, but it’s only been built-in for about 7 months.
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Yes. Follow this link. I found his article through this.
But actually he doesn’t say anything about FSRS here. Maybe because he changed his mind or because others used to think he’s trolling. If you want to contact him for some reason join the TMW discord server and search his name. Pretty sure he’s still there.
It’s probably best not to advertise discord here because it’s proven to be malware. Additionally, such servers are prone to be filled with misleading information. If you’re looking for a japanese learning community, the best option would be to join the DJT chats, you can access them with free software.
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I can’t say for all fields of study, but in AJATT, we still refrain from recommending FSRS. One of the reason is that it’s a new thing that didn’t exist until just recently, and it hasn’t been proven enough to trust it. But people have lost their data because of it so I usually suggest waiting until it’s fixed (or use backups). Another reason is that it’s very complicated. You can explain how Anki algorithm works in one formula (new interval = old interval * ease factor * interval modifier), but FSRS apparently uses a lot of parameters and hasn’t been explained thoroughly enough. Of course, you can study the source code if you can, but most users won’t do it.
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Not a fan of TMW either. I actually use discord through my browser. Is that still very risky? Also a bit personal maybe, why are you so concerned about such things? I sometimes feel like government agencies may be tracking you or something lol.
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You probably missed it.
A technical explanation of the FSRS algorithm
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I don’t use reddit. But i’ll read this post, thank you.
This. @L.M.Sherlock @Expertium sorry about this guys but I think maybe in the future it would be good to have a more accessible explainer on Anki. For me personally, if the requirements are stated I’m willing to do additional study, maybe delve into the whole stochastics thing and other maths I’d need. Most of us don’t even know what the FSRS weights do. I don’t know programming and all and cannot study the source code but if all of this was explained somewhere for the lay persons I’d be willing to put effort.
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Mind elaborating?
A technical explanation of the FSRS algorithm
https://open-spaced-repetition.github.io/anki_fsrs_visualizer/
If you still have questions about the meaning of which weights FSRS, ask its.
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There’s always a risk when running proprietary code (including js code). If you can, ask your friends to use something that isn’t proprietary. There are many options. I usually talk to people on Matrix.
I’m mostly concerned about the quality of those communities. I don’t think about programs I don’t use. If I used them then I’d be concerned.
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Just referring to what other people said after they tried fsrs. I can’t comment on this much.
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You can also read this, but I think my Reddit post explains things better.
Also check the pinned post
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