Remove easy and hard as options once you fail a card (while in learning)

I believe the term in anki jargon is that the card is in learning

The rationale is that you just failed a card. Your “opinion” if this card is easy or hard has already being answered. You didnt know it

What comes after that is just wishful thinking, “i should know this card because is looks easy” or “this is very important to me, i hope i get asked about this soon again” or whatever you tell yourself to press easy or hard

After you failed a card and its showed to you again, it might feel “easy” but it is skewed and not real. You recently saw the card today, of course it feels easy

My suggestion is to only leave fail or good because the underneath question at that point is, “this was not committed to memory today. Do you believe this is committed to memory now?”

I had this on fsrs instead of suggestions is because old algorithm didnt do this if i dont misremember :slight_smile:

I use all buttons except for easy during studying and I’m very honest in grading myself.

If I study a new card and fail it (Again), then see it again and barely remember it [but did it right] (Hard), neither Again, nor Good would be appropriate.

Removing buttons for all users depending on card state introduces (confusing) inconsistencies. Also, in my case, it would make learning worse.

I’d thus be against this change.

You mean SM-2 did hide the buttons?

I think this is new in fsrs because i started noticing after starting using fsrs, but maybe im just misremembering

I can believe you are honest when grading, but after you have seen the card recently (and failed) it makes no sense to answer if its hard or easy on the same day again. You already answered. Everything you do after during the day is going to be skewed one way or the other

its not objective anymore

I really dont care about being removed to be honest, im personally capping my answers to good after that, the same i cap an answer to good if i saw a reference somewhere else during the day (aka, im not pulling it out of thin air). I also cap the hard. If i dont know it as well as i should i just fail it again until im satisfied with my answer

Im just discussing the algorithm here, maybe im missing something, but saying your card is easy or hard after recently failed simply doenst make sense to an algorithm in my mind

Can somebody with knowledge on fsrs weight in?

You are rating your ability to answer the card at the moment. If the algorithm makes a mistake because of your honest rating, that’s a problem with the algorithm.

I think that’s how I am supposed to think about FSRS. Because FSRS processes times and ratings from the review history, not the recorded calculated difficulties, and may be improved later.

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Anki used to hide the Hard button for learn cards, but that was like a few years ago.

I don’t believe there’s a gold standard on rating we all can agree upon, and so there will always be people and situations where this makes sense.

Maybe you’re taking the button names too literally? Because easy/hard aren’t fundamentally different from their again/good counterpart even though they seem to form two separate groups.

For one, take the fact that some people rate things Easy even when they didnt find it easy subjectively. I often do it if I can successfully answer a seriously overdue card.