# Forget versus Again

**URL:** https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/forget-versus-again/9404
**Category:** Help
**Created:** [April 19, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/forget-versus-again/9404 "2021-04-19T16:55:41Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author: ![StephenLL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@StephenLL](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/StephenLL)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/forget-versus-again/9404/1 "2021-04-19T16:55:41Z")

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What is the difference between using the `Forget` menu item in the browser and answering `Again` when reviewing a card?

I couldn’t find an entry about the `Forget` menu item in the manual.

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### Author: ![dae](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/dae/32/65_2.png) [@dae](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/dae)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2021, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/forget-versus-again/9404/3 "2021-04-20T10:30:43Z")

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Forget puts the card back in the New queue, and resets its ease.

@missy-davies this’d be good to add to the manual if you’re interested

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### Author: ![missy-davies](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/missy-davies/32/4108_2.png) [@missy-davies](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/missy-davies)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/forget-versus-again/9404/4 "2021-04-21T18:04:33Z")

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Sounds great, I’m on it! I’ll add that next.

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### Author: ![OldGrantonian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/oldgrantonian/32/986_2.png) [@OldGrantonian](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/OldGrantonian)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2021, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/forget-versus-again/9404/5 "2021-04-25T09:08:26Z")

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> [@dae](#):
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> Forget puts the card back in the New queue, and resets its ease.

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I experimented with Forget.

I notice that “Lapses” is not reset to zero in browser. Should it be ?

Thanks.

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### Author: ![dae](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/dae/32/65_2.png) [@dae](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/dae)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2021, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/forget-versus-again/9404/6 "2021-04-27T09:16:34Z")

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It moves the card back to the new queue without erasing its history, so keeping the lapse count is consistent with that.

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### Author: ![garrettm30](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/garrettm30/32/1268_2.png) [@garrettm30](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/garrettm30)
#### Post date: [June 8, 2021, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/forget-versus-again/9404/7 "2021-06-08T00:10:15Z")

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> [@dae](#):
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> Forget puts the card back in the New queue, and resets its ease.

It seems that forget does not truly make the card become new again in these two respects:

1. The learning steps applied to the “forgotten” card do not follow the study options of their deck.
2. The ease factor is reset to 250% without considering either the previous ease factor or the starting ease factor of the deck.

(Note that for testing purposes, I tested by studying directly in the deck rather than a parent deck to avoid possible confusion of multiple deck study options.)

I first observed this with iOS beta 2.0.75 (20075.5), but before I reported it as a beta issue, I tested with desktop version Mac 2.1.44 and found the same behavior. Is this intentional? The changing of the ease factor is particularly hard to work around, as in this particular deck I have designed a study routine around a much lower ease factor.

Whether this is intentional or a bug, for the present, if I want to reset the ease factor to its starting value from the deck options rather than 250%, is the easiest workaround to just delete the note (here a one-card note) and just recreate it again?

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### Author: ![dae](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/dae/32/65_2.png) [@dae](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/dae)
#### Post date: [June 8, 2021, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/forget-versus-again/9404/8 "2021-06-08T07:30:09Z")

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IIRC the learning steps are assigned when a new card is answered and moved to the learning queue, so #1 sounds strange. Can you provide a repro case?

@cyphar if you’re still planning on ["Set Due Date" doesn't obey default ease factor](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/set-due-date-doesnt-obey-default-ease-factor/9184), it would be good to address this for the forget case as well

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### Author: ![garrettm30](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/garrettm30/32/1268_2.png) [@garrettm30](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/garrettm30)
#### Post date: [June 8, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/forget-versus-again/9404/9 "2021-06-08T22:16:37Z")

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I’m glad you referenced that issue about “Set Due Date,” because I did use that in this case, and now I believe it is the sole cause of both of the issues I raised. In fact, I was able to “forget” the card where I first saw the problem, and it fixed both the learning steps and the ease factor. So I conclude the problem was not with the forget functionality but set due date.

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### Author: ![dae](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/dae/32/65_2.png) [@dae](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/dae)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2021, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/forget-versus-again/9404/10 "2021-06-11T09:34:31Z")

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I’m still not following point #1. Could you please provide the minimum steps required to reproduce the problem?

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### Author: ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/anki2/original/1X/8f1279ababc5879d54e4838989f606cfe55af8c7.jpeg) [@system](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2023, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/forget-versus-again/9404/11 "2023-05-01T05:02:01Z")

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