# Confusing message about sequential due number on v3 **URL:** \ **Category:** Suggestions\ **Created:** [November 7, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/confusing-message-about-sequential-due-number-on-v3/51668 "2024-11-07T13:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sommerluk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@sommerluk](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/sommerluk)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/confusing-message-about-sequential-due-number-on-v3/51668/1 "2024-11-07T13:49:17Z")
**Steps to reproduce** In Deck Options, in the “_New Cards_” section, we have the “_Insertion order_” option, with two possible values: Either “_Sequential (oldest card first)_” or “_Random_”. Choose “_Random_”. **Actual behaviour** You get the following message: “_With the v3 scheduler, it is better to leave this set to sequential, and adjust the new card gather order instead._” This seems quite confusing to me, because you get this message in any case, both when you use v3 and also when you use FSRS: ![Default Anki scheduler](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/anki2/original/3X/e/5/e5683655f24125688e8440737fa7a8a7c2a97a50.png) ![FSRS](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/anki2/original/3X/4/1/41f73c4e1a79748d2449deead2476c21bd3eab94.png) This behaviour is contradictory with the message itself, because FSRS is not v3, and you get this message nevertheless. (I suppose in the past you did not get this message when you used the v2 scheduler, but this isn’t an option anymore in current Anki which does not offer v2 anymore.) **Expected behaviour** I suppose in both, FSRS and v3 it is better to use sequential insertion order? If so, maybe the expected behaviour would be to remove the “_Insert order_” option entirely from Anki? ---
**Author:** ![Keks](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/keks/32/20537_2.png) [@Keks](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/Keks)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/confusing-message-about-sequential-due-number-on-v3/51668/2 "2024-11-07T14:05:46Z")
FSRS is not an sm-2. [https://faqs.ankiweb.net/the-2021-scheduler.HTML](https://faqs.ankiweb.net/the-2021-scheduler.HTML) FSRS and v3 are different non-competing things. ---
**Author:** ![sorata](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/sorata/32/34115_2.png) [@sorata](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/sorata)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/confusing-message-about-sequential-due-number-on-v3/51668/3 "2024-11-08T06:40:08Z")
I think we can do two things: 1. Move Insertion Order to Advanced section. And edit that message to remove the word v3. Most people who are new here would’ve no idea what’s a v3. 2. Or, remove this option altogether but that would be problematic for folks who are still using the feature. ---
**Author:** ![dae](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/dae/32/65_2.png) [@dae](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/dae)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2024, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/confusing-message-about-sequential-due-number-on-v3/51668/4 "2024-11-17T10:05:17Z")
I’m inclined to agree with you both, and have logged this on [Drop the insertion order option · Issue #3583 · ankitects/anki · GitHub](https://github.com/ankitects/anki/issues/3583). ---
**Author:** ![Danika\_Dakika](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/danika_dakika/32/17815_2.png) [@Danika\_Dakika](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/Danika_Dakika)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/confusing-message-about-sequential-due-number-on-v3/51668/5 "2024-11-19T01:41:30Z")
Aw, nuts! I’ll move [my impassioned defense](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/in-defense-of-insertion-order-random/50521) over to GitHub then. 😉