# Anki 25.08 Beta 3+ **URL:** \ **Category:** Beta Testing\ **Created:** [July 28, 2025, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738 "2025-07-28T09:35:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dae](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/dae/32/65_2.png) [@dae](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/dae)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/1 "2025-07-28T09:35:43Z")
Hi all, A new beta is now available: > **[Releases · ankitects/anki](https://github.com/ankitects/anki/releases)** > > Anki is a smart spaced repetition flashcard program - ankitects/anki ---
**Author:** ![Expertium](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/expertium/32/24176_2.png) [@Expertium](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/Expertium)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/2 "2025-07-28T09:44:16Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/anki2/original/3X/6/e/6e015f90b40536eb1e81d047aadd62744ca0489a.png) ---
**Author:** ![dae](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/dae/32/65_2.png) [@dae](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/dae)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/3 "2025-07-28T09:53:55Z")
Looks like another regression on Windows 10. Will look into it. ---
**Author:** ![Expertium](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/expertium/32/24176_2.png) [@Expertium](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/Expertium)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/4 "2025-07-28T09:55:59Z")
@L.M.Sherlock @A_Blokee @sorata @vaibhav I think we need to brainstorm how to improve the FSRS section. It’s getting cluttered and awkward 1. The fact that the DR - workload graph can only be accessed via Help Me Decide but not via FSRS Simulator is definitely not the way. That is by far the most awkward part. Honestly, no offense to Luc, but the entire simulator window needs a UI overhaul, IMO. 2. Maybe combine Optimize Current Preset and Optimize All Presets into one dropdown menu? Dae, I really wish you agreed to split the entire UI into Standard and Advanced and just have a toggle for that and make Standard the default, so that a lot of settings are hiden. Just imagine how good that would be! IMAGINE DUDE. SERIOUSLY. It would solve sooooo many UI problems 😭 Power users can power use, average users can stick to Standard with the bare minimum of settings and toggles and buttons and menus and bells and whistles ---
**Author:** ![L.M.Sherlock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/l.m.sherlock/32/16770_2.png) [@L.M.Sherlock](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/L.M.Sherlock)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/5 "2025-07-28T10:10:30Z")
I’m not good at UI/UX. And I could even tolerate SM-18’s UI/UX. So… please don’t pin me for UI/UX discussion. I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![abdo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/abdo/32/654_2.png) [@abdo](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/abdo)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/6 "2025-07-28T10:38:48Z")
> [@dae](#): > > Looks like another regression on Windows 10 Removing these lines fixed the issue for me: > ---
**Author:** ![dae](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/dae/32/65_2.png) [@dae](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/dae)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/7 "2025-07-28T12:19:57Z")
I’ve just pushed out beta 4 and a new launcher. Could you give it a try to see if it solves the problem? > **[Release 25.08b4 · ankitects/anki](https://github.com/ankitects/anki/releases/tag/25.08b4)** > > Installing > > Install the latest launcher from below > Run Anki, and use Tools\>Upgrade/Downgrade > Ensure you have beta versions enabled in the launcher before choosing 'latest version' > > What's Changed > > ... ---
**Author:** ![llama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@llama](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/llama)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/8 "2025-07-28T13:08:43Z")
Still doesn’t render right for me: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/anki2/original/3X/2/6/26f54575dc2a2d281a25dbcdbe23c698c1f2ae7e.png) After removing those three lines entirely as Abdo suggested: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/anki2/original/3X/f/6/f67561d0329eab9d59d6b2fd218a7955e3cdf496.png) EDIT: nevermind, it suddenly started rendering properly for some reason ---
**Author:** ![dae](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/dae/32/65_2.png) [@dae](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/dae)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/9 "2025-07-28T13:12:20Z")
The issue should be apparent when triggering the launcher via Tools\>Upgrade/Downgrade - it won’t be visible when opening anki.exe when the launcher window is ready to display on startup. Are you sure you tried Tools\>Upgrade/Downgrade from b4? ---
**Author:** ![Expertium](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/expertium/32/24176_2.png) [@Expertium](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/Expertium)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/10 "2025-07-28T17:10:32Z")
Well, turns out there is a problem with the estimation of workload, so here’s your FSRS-related, not UI-related ping 😅 Estimated: 5.67x Actual: around 15x ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/anki2/original/3X/8/f/8f16c13b0d8e53471e7f0476cd5a39db3f07a7be.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/anki2/original/3X/7/d/7dac3bd94f7fa3aef4d301f71946d44b8398fbaf.png) I sent you my collection on Discord ---
**Author:** ![vaibhav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c68b51/32.png) [@vaibhav](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/vaibhav)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/11 "2025-07-28T17:14:01Z")
@dae, in the latest launcher, I can’t find the option to sync project changes, which I require because of [Provide an easier way to change PyQt version](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/provide-an-easier-way-to-change-pyqt-version/64517). Even after using `touch pyproject.toml` (on WSL) and confirming that the mod time was updated, I get only the following options on clicking Upgrade/Downgrade. ```auto 1) Latest Anki (press Enter) 2) Choose a version 3) Keep existing version (25.07.4) 5) Allow betas: on 6) Cache downloads: off 7) Uninstall ``` PS: 1. Anki is installed and running on the Windows side. 2. The issue occurs even if the pyproject.toml file is modified manually (rather than using touch). 3. The “Sync project changes” option was shown correctly with the 25.07.4 launcher. ---
**Author:** ![vaibhav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c68b51/32.png) [@vaibhav](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/vaibhav)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/12 "2025-07-28T17:36:50Z")
As the latest launcher wasn’t working for me, I reverted to the 25.07.4 launcher and noticed another issue (which likely still persists) When `anki` and `aqt` are mentioned directly in the pyproject.toml file rather than using `anki-release` (see below), beta releases of anki are not included even if `Allow betas` is turned on. ```toml [project] name = "anki-launcher" version = "1.0.0" description = "UV-based launcher for Anki." requires-python = ">=3.9" dependencies = [ "anki", "aqt", "anki-audio", "pyqt6-qt6==6.8.1", "pyqt6-webengine-qt6==6.8.2" ] ``` Likely cause: [Avoid UV\_PRERELEASE=allow · ankitects/anki@1ad82ea · GitHub](https://github.com/ankitects/anki/commit/1ad82ea8b5db42e46b758d09183e1ff4efc28aab) ---
**Author:** ![A\_Blokee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/a_blokee/32/17955_2.png) [@A\_Blokee](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/A_Blokee)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/13 "2025-07-28T17:43:31Z")
> [@Expertium](#): > > The fact that the DR - workload graph can only be accessed via Help Me Decide but not via FSRS Simulator is definitely not the way I had previously implemented it with a switch but that was more confusing IMO and I’m not sure what the alternative would be. > > > \> Maybe make a toggle button? The toggle state tells you what graph you're > look…ing at. > > \image > > Something like this? Here’s the discussion: > > > \> What if instead of having a toggle between the two modes, you have a button/li…nk in the deck options page near the DR setting (something like "Help Me Pick") that presents the graph without any further clicks required? I presume this is a feature we'll want users to be able to access easily / not hide behind an "experimental" tag > > That's a good idea! > > \> Would it be worth showing yellow/red for high DRs? If changing the line color dynamically is hard, made we could just overlay some semi-transparent rectangles over portion of the graph? Or a gradient? > > Not a huge fan of this one. The coloring would be too arbitrary. For that matter, I think the graph in the manual should also be monochrome. > > EDIT: I don't think that ignoring max. reviews is a good idea ---
**Author:** ![young1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f1d935/32.png) [@young1](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/young1)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/14 "2025-07-29T18:58:44Z")
The bug of pressing, spacebar/advance/flip card to the answer, and it not revealing the cloze/IO card is back. If I advance the card and it doesn’t flip and I rate the card 1-4, it does move to next card. I haven’t had this issue with any other beta’s until this recent one. Otherwise for that, it is working well on my MacOs. ---
**Author:** ![Danika\_Dakika](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/danika_dakika/32/17815_2.png) [@Danika\_Dakika](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/Danika_Dakika)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/15 "2025-07-29T21:26:59Z")
The solution for that is usually changing your video driver. Have you tried that? Troubleshooting Checklist #6 – [Troubleshooting - Anki Manual](https://docs.ankiweb.net/troubleshooting.html) . ---
**Author:** ![young1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f1d935/32.png) [@young1](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/young1)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/16 "2025-07-29T22:53:40Z")
That solved it. I apologize for putting out this out when not related to the beta. I did switch computers recently and didn’t adjust drivers. This problem did restart during beta and not during 25.07+, so I don’t know if that helps, but adjusting the driver did solve it! ---
**Author:** ![dae](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/dae/32/65_2.png) [@dae](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/dae)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/17 "2025-07-31T09:38:35Z")
> [@vaibhav](#): > > @dae, in the latest launcher, I can’t find the option to sync project changes, which I require because of [Provide an easier way to change PyQt version](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/provide-an-easier-way-to-change-pyqt-version/64517). > > Even after using `touch pyproject.toml` (on WSL) and confirming that the mod time was updated, I get only the following options on clicking Upgrade/Downgrade. If it’s the first run or a previous run was interrupted, you’ll need to put back the .sync\_complete marker file. > [@vaibhav](#): > > When `anki` and `aqt` are mentioned directly in the pyproject.toml file rather than using `anki-release` (see below), beta releases of anki are not included even if `Allow betas` is turned on. The new approach requires you to specify an explicit version when you want a beta I’m afraid. ---
**Author:** ![vaibhav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c68b51/32.png) [@vaibhav](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/vaibhav)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/18 "2025-07-31T10:24:50Z")
> [@dae](#): > > If it’s the first run or a previous run was interrupted, you’ll need to put back the .sync\_complete marker file. I can’t make the new launcher show the “Sync project changes” option on any attempt. The .sync\_complete file is already there in the `%LOCALAPPDATA%\AnkiProgramFiles` directory. ---
**Author:** ![dae](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/forums.ankiweb.net/dae/32/65_2.png) [@dae](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/dae)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/20 "2025-07-31T10:40:16Z")
Is pyproject newer than it? Once you’ve synced changes, it’ll no longer prompt you to sync until the file is changed again. ---
**Author:** ![vaibhav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c68b51/32.png) [@vaibhav](https://forums.ankiweb.net/u/vaibhav)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738/21 "2025-07-31T10:45:26Z")
Yes, the pyproject.toml (the one in `%LOCALAPPDATA%\Programs\Anki`) is newer than the .sync\_complete file in `%LOCALAPPDATA%\AnkiProgramFiles`. The pyproject.toml in `%LOCALAPPDATA%\AnkiProgramFiles` is older. I don’t know if I am supposed to modify that too. [Next page](https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-08-beta-3/64738.md?page=2)